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Author:
26son
Date Posted:
6/2/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms with Gang Showers?
Does anyone know if there are any gyms in Pittsburgh, PA with open showers?
Do you have gang showers in your area? |
Author:
n2jocks
Date Posted:
6/2/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms with Gang Showers
I live near Harrisburg, Pa and I go to the downtown YMCA there. They have 2 locker rooms for the men. One is the Adult Male Locker Room and the other is called the IOP Locker Room. I am not sure what IOP stands for except that locker room is more expensive to use when you join. Both locker rooms have gang showers. The Adult Male locker room has 2 gang shower rooms...one with about 9 shower heads and the other with 3 or 4 shower heads. The IOP side has one gang shower room with 13 or 14 shower heads. I always take the shower head in the IOP Locker Room that lets me so see all the men coming onto the shower area. There is also a YMCA in the Camp Hill/Mechanicburg area that has 2 male locker rooms and both have gang showers there too. I have not been to that YMCA in years though. |
Author:
packedstra[
Date Posted:
6/2/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms with Grang Showers
I belonged to a few and it was hot where men were just men and ya we checked each other out. It was a true man's guy where men wore jockstraps and no one cared. The locker room had no embarrassment. We worked out together and showered together. We all knew who was a shower and a grower.
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Author:
dfw_kayakguy
Date Posted:
6/3/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Dallas
Where are there gang showers in dfw? |
Author:
jockbros
Date Posted:
6/5/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: locker rooms
I've been in quite a few high school locker rooms around Pittsburgh, and they all have gang showers. A lot of them also have trough urinals and shitter stalls with low walls and/or no doors. |
Author:
midwestjock
Date Posted:
6/9/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Locker rooms
Jockbros,
Those locker rooms sound great. Group showers, trough urinals, and shitter stalls with low walls and / or no doors. What a locker room should be like! |
Author:
packedstra[
Date Posted:
6/10/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms with Gang Shower
I grew up with gang showers from middle school through high school and even into collage. Even when I joined my first gym after graduating from collage and out on my own it had a gang shower. It was not until 2001 when I joined a new gym that I saw private showers. I have never been to shy in the locker room since I have what I have and some days it is a shower and others it is a grower. All men have a pair of cock and balls so who cares. Sure maybe someone will take an interest in you and ask. However, if you are not interested just say no thank you and take the compliment. Why have men become so inhibited in he locker room. I was a place where up could just let it all hang out. Sure there were the creepers but I always just dropped my shorts to let them see and look them in the face while grabbing the pouch of my jock. They usually just turned tail and went away. |
Author:
Strapped Wrangler
Date Posted:
6/10/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: WHY ARE MEN SHY TODAY?
I enjoyed packedstra's discussion! Men today are shy for many reasons. I will share one.
In earlier times there was an enforced military draft. The nation wanted all males to be ready to fight. There were physical exercise and track requirements and standards in the PE classes.
They wanted men to be unashamed in the shower rooms because there is no privacy in the military. If you grow-up seeing other guys naked, you accept the differences as natural as the differences you see when men have clothes on. They didn't want guys having an emotional melt down having to deal with being naked.
Today most men only see other men naked in porn, and the "hero" always has a bigger cock than 99% of us. That is impossible to compete with. Whereas in the real world the team captain or the athletic hero most likely has a medium cock, and those with short cocks are equally as proud.
Guys are lucky who grow-up in the real world. |
Author:
jimboylan
Date Posted:
6/11/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Philadelphia
The NorthEast (Philadelphia, Pa.) YMCA on Knights Rd. has 5 shower heads in 1 room, 3 on 1 wall, 1 each on 2 others. The 6th shower head is in a separate Handicapped Room, used by shy people. |
Author:
n2jocks
Date Posted:
6/12/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms with gang sowers and why are me shy today
The downtown YMCA in Harrisburg, PA. also has a accessible shower stall,(handicapped is not a word they use any more) in its gang shower room. It did have a shower curtain for privacy, but for some reason it was taken down. I have never seen anyone in a wheel chair use the accessible shower but I have seen plenty of other guys use it to sit down while washing their feet or other body parts.
As for why are guys shy today. I believe kids are taught to be modest now. I believe it has to do a lot with sexual abuse of children. I think kids are taught that their genital are not to be seen or touched by anyone except themselves.
In the building codes, it is required to provide privacy partitions between urinals. Trough type urinals are prohibited. Shower partitions and shower curtains are required for privacy as are toilet stall partitions. It is against the code to remove toilet stall doors.
I stopped worrying about some one else seeing me naked when I was in college and using the swimming pool to exercise. They had a gang shower room with 5 poles and 5 shower heads on each pole. I just thought one day ...fuck it...if some one wants to look...let them...and if I want to look...I will. As packedstrap said...all men (and boys) have a cock and set of balls. Some are bigger and some are smaller. Some are growers and some are showers....I just assume the better hung guys are showers...LOL. |
Author:
jimboylan
Date Posted:
6/18/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Building codes for Trough Urinals, etc.
n2, can you please give us a link to any of the Building Codes that you cite that have interesting regulations and prohibitions? |
Author:
packedstra[
Date Posted:
6/18/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms With Gang Shawers....Trough Urinals
Building codes also have grandfather clauses. It could be an older place that had not done any renovations.
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Author:
workoutbud09
Date Posted:
10/24/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: College stadium had trough urinals
I can remember going to college games with trough urinals. You couldn’t have enough urinals for 50,000 fans. Standing shoulder to shoulder, letting it flow, made for quick turnover. As for gang showers, times have changed. Less gang showers and unfortunately less jocks as well. You don’t miss what you don’t have until it’s too late. |
Author:
Strapped Wrangler
Date Posted:
10/24/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: ABANDONED HIGH SCHOOL
The old brick high school building in my town was abandoned 40 years ago when the new high school was built. It is fenced off so no one can go in it. I have often day dreamed about breaking in and going through the old boy's locker room with gang showers, where everybody was comfortable seeing each other naked in all the sizes and variations we come in.
I imagine what the men I know looked like then, everyone putting on jocks. I'm sure there are some jockstraps left in there somewhere, hanging in lockers, or in a corner, or on the floor, or in a trash can. It would be nice to look. There are probably some real treasures.
But it's not worth having someone call the sheriff for going in. It would be hard to explain. So I just think about it when I go by. It's just sitting there calling for someone to come and look.
I miss the day when guys saw each other naked. Everyone was accepted. Yes, there was teasing. Unfortunately the insecure guys took it serious. The athletes were confident men whether their cocks were short or long. We were all brothers. We were all winners. Everyone should know that feeling of acceptance. Anyone was an equal man when he put on his jockstrap. That was sacred. That was the MALE CODE. That's the way it was.
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Author:
jockstrapguy
Date Posted:
10/25/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Atlanta or Detroit
Anyone know of gyms with these showers in atlanta or detroit? |
Author:
n2jocks
Date Posted:
10/26/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms with gang showers and urinal screens
Hey jimboylan...the building codes are the ICC building codes...The International Code Council writes the codes and the different municipalities and states adopt them for use in their jurisdictions. In the IBC, International Building Code, there is a section in the code that requires that privacy partitions be installed at urinals. It is, or was, also in the Plumbing Code as well. As I recall (I retired 5 years ago and the codes get updated every 3 years) urinal partitions had to be 12 inches maximum off the floor and 5 feet minimum off the floor. For the average height of a man it puts if about shoulder height to help prevent guys from looking at your dick.
The codes also required privacy partitions for toilets and showers. It is to provide privacy when you shower so no other guys see you naked. So if the municipality has adopted the codes, they cannot take the door off the stalls like you used to see in some department store men's room to prevent guys from sucking dick or playing around.
When I retired, there was talk in the Code Council of just requiring single user toilet rooms and not providing multi-user (or what we call gang toilets) anymore. Part of that is due to the transgender issues in schools and other places. Which is stupid, because most places that provide multi- user toilet rooms also provide single user (or what they call family handicapped toilet rooms) so that a spouse or parent can assist each other or their children.
I think the only place you would see large, open toilet rooms and gang showers any more would be in the military basic training bases. The Federal Government does not have to follow the Building Codes on Federal property as they have their own building codes. |
Author:
Strapped Wrangler
Date Posted:
10/26/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: BUILDING CODES
Thankyou n2jocks!
I always wondered how the practice of privacy shields spread so quickly across the nation. You explained it.
A few decades ago men thought it essential to raise the next generation feeling comfortable about being seen, so they would not be in doubt about their manhood. The YMCA felt it was important to be seen, and swim naked. They knew that insecure guys were handicapped in life and self-doubts and fear of being seen could cripple a guy's success in life. They wanted to create a "muscular Christianity". They wanted the boys raised in Sunday School to come back from the wars alive. (They hadn't been.)
The military did everything to make privacy impossible so that we could overcome shyness fears and bond. You cannot worry about being seen when your life is at risk in battle. You have to remain confident or you lose the fight.
How the world has changed! Not for the good. I think it is making us weak. Manhood has been under attack. 50% of boys today were raised without their fathers.
Another thing I continue to wonder about is how every single school in the USA required jockstraps for gym starting at 5th grade. The rule was standard from big cities to tiny rural schools from the East Coast to the West Coast. What institutions organized that uniformity? It is too bad that changed too.
The Hippie generation changed that. The girls burnt their bras and the boys told the coaches they weren't going to wear jocks. They were "symbols" of the establishment's oppression over them. Look what you got now: young men's testosterone is 22% below normal and sperm is 60% below normal.
I have worn jockstraps all my life and at age 75 my testosterone is higher than the 20-33 age category. Not many men can say that.
Jockstraps are good for your balls.
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Author:
jimboylan
Date Posted:
10/27/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Hadicapped Gang Shower
This link from the American Disabilities Act includes 2 illustrations of Gang Showers where 1 position is Accessible. While these installations comply with the Disabilities Act, that is no guarantee that they comply with local Building Codes.
I'm still looking for rules about trough urinals. |
Author:
workoutbud09
Date Posted:
10/27/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Urinal/showers Planning sessions
I’d love to be a fly on the wall during these planning meetings....how far apart do guys stand in the showers, how large should the urinal petitions be, toilet stalls...door height off floor, do the shower heads be in the middle on pole or on the walls, meaning do the men face each other’s cock or asses out because of the wall mount. Decisions Decisions... and the important question.. how many hooks do we hang on the shower walls to hang our jock on.LOL when we were in school, we just soaped up, snapped towels and ocassionally got a boner. Life was good. |
Author:
n2jocks
Date Posted:
10/29/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms with gang showers and urinal screens
jimboylan...You are correct...the ADA uses differnt regulations for accessibility issues...AADAG. The Internationals Building codes use ANSI A117. The ANSI regulations are updated about every 3 years, like the building codes. It take an act of Congress to update the AADAG regulations. The two regulations are about 99% compatible. If you comply with ANSI you are in compliance with AADAG. Most municipalities use the building codes and ANSI. A little note here....when the federal government builds a building anywhere, they do not have to comply with the local building codes or zoning regulations ...they use their codes.
As for trough urinals....they are no longer legal per the codes. It is highly unlikely you will see urinal troughs installed in any new or renovated buildings. It would be very difficult to make part of a urinal trough accessible and it would be very difficult to provide privacy screens at a urinal trough. Most men are so afraid that some one else will look at their dicks that they will get real close to the urinal to keep you from checking him out. |
Author:
n2jocks
Date Posted:
10/29/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: Gyms with gang showers and urinal screens
workoutbud09....Typically there are minimum required for plumbing fixtures and partitions per the codes. The minimum requirements for a urinal is 30 inch wide. Partitions had to be 12 inches minimum off the floor and a minimum of 5 feet high. Not sure if they changed any of that since I retired. Toilet stalls have to be a minimum of 36 inches wide and the partitions are to be 12 inches maximum off the floor and a minimum of 6 feet high. You can have partitions that go to the floor but then the size of the stall get a bit bigger. Accessible toilet stalls have to be 5 feet wide and a minimum of 5 feet deep. A 36 inch long grab bar is required across the back of the toilet no more than 6 inches off the side wall and a 54 inch grab bar is required along the side wall of the toilet at no more than 12 inches off the back wall. Both grab bars have to be between 33 inches and 36 inches maximum off the floor. A vertical grab bar is required on the side partition or wall; but to be honest I forget the exact dimension requirements. The toilet flush handle has to be on the open side of the toilet. Nothing else is allowed within that space...so if you see a trash can or even a toilet brush or plunger sitting in the corner of an accessible stall they are breaking the law. The door has to swing out for an accessible toilet stall. Accessible urinals are also a minimum of 30 inches wide and the rim of the urinal had to be 15 inches maximum off the floor. You only need to provide an accessible urinal if you provide more than one urinal in a toilet room. There are no requirements of grab bars at urinals.
I went to a few of the ANSI meeting in Washington D.C. to observe how they come up with all the rules and regulations. That day they spent 3 hours on if the edge of the stair tread should be curved or champhered and if it should be 1/4 inch or 1/8 inch. They spent over an hour on the use of flush mechanisms on the top of the toilet tank where you push your finger down on the mechanism to flush. The Little People of America (yes, they are a real group) do not like those flush mechanisms as they cannot always reach them or their fingers are too short to be able to push down enough to flush the toilet. It is amazing that they can get any changes passed in the 3 years it takes them to update the codes.
Also, they don't like the word handicapped...they like accessible. It is not a handicapped toilet room, it is an accessible toilet room. It is not a handicapped parking space, it is an accessible parking space. By they way...if there is no sign telling you the fine for parking in an accessible parking space...the local police cannot enforce it. They have to tell you the fine on a sign, at the accessible parking space...and that part is not in the codes it is provided by others. In Pennsylvania that part is covered by the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation. Also...if you park in a space that has the accessible symbol of a person in a wheelchair but there is no access space/aisle painted out beside it...it is not a legal accessible space. All accessible parking spaces shall have the painted access aisle beside it and nothing is to be in that area...no light standards or accessible ramps or any thing else. And no one is allowed to park in the access aisle either. Accessible paring spaces have to be a minimum of 5 feet wide and as deep as the parking space provided. If it is van Accessible space it can be either 8 feet wide with an 8 foot access aisle or the accessible parking space can be 11 feet wide with a 5 foot access aisle. That is the preferred accessible space as it makes it harder for people to park in the access aisle.
Sorry for going on so much....old habits die hard. |
Author:
workoutbud09
Date Posted:
10/29/2020 12:00:00 AM
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Subject: n2jocks-interesting!
n2jocks....wow. That’s interesting. That gave me something to think about next time I’m taking a piss.
Thanks for explaining all that. |
